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Fox’s MacCallum Blasts Dem Senator For Ignoring Waste, Fraud At Social Security

Charlie Kirk Staff

04/03/2025

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Fox’s MacCallum Blasts Dem Senator For Ignoring Waste, Fraud At Social Security

Fox News anchor Martha MacCallum shredded Democrat Senator Chris Coons on live television in a fiery interview over government waste and fraud.

It happened on Wednesday as MacCallum was hosting her Fox News show “The Story” where the Democrat senator was a guest.

The host asked the senator what his response was when he learned of the numbers the Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE) revealed since it began, particularly at the Social Security Department, but the Democrat brushed it off.

“Were you as shocked as I was when you heard some of that — some of those numbers, some of the information about how much fraud is happening in Social Security, Senator?” she said.

“So, Martha, not only do I not believe some of what was just shared there, but the Trump administration’s acting administrator of Social Security has said that less than one-tenth of one percent of the payments put out by the Social Security administration are fraudulent or in error,” he said.

But with Social Security set to pay around $1.6 trillion in 2025 which would mean that one tenth of one percent would be $1.6 billion. Not a nominal sum.

“Elon Musk has made it clear that he thinks Social Security is a Ponzi scheme,” the senator said. “A Ponzi scheme is itself fraudulent, fake, criminal, or illegal. I don’t think Social Security is a Ponzi scheme. I think 70 million Americans depend on it for their principal source of income.”

“Let me ask you a question, Senator. Let me ask you a question. You’ve made a lot of points, let me ask you a question,” the host said as the senator continued to filibuster. “You say all those millions of people depend on Social Security, so you don’t care about the ones that are going to never get it because it’s going to be insolvent in ten years. What have Democrats done? What did Joe Biden’s administration do to find the waste, fraud, and abuse in Social Security to try to shore up this important agency? What did they do? Can you tell me?”

“Sure,” Coons said. “Martha, you are presuming widespread waste, fraud, and abuse in Social Security. You haven’t offered any credible evidence to support that. I don’t believe what DOGE says about virtually any federal agency.”

A frustrated MacCallum finally ended the interview saying, “I don’t know why you don’t want to hear it! It’s like — you can’t just put your fingers in your ear and go ‘blah blah blah,’ like it’s not happening!”

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Charlie Kirk is the Founder and President of Turning Point USA, a national student movement dedicated to empowering young people to promote the principles of free markets and limited government.

Charlie is also the host of “The Charlie Kirk Show” podcast, which regularly ranks among the top-10 news shows on Apple podcast news charts, and is the host of the nationally syndicated daily radio show on the Salem Radio Network live from 12 - 3 PM ET.
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