The legacy media is collapsing and it was evident in the presidential election and President-elect Donald Trump utilized long form podcasts and alternative media as Vice President Kamala Harris stuck to the highly partisan legacy media.

The Republican landslide, evidenced not only in the capturing of the White House but also the Senate and House of Representatives as the president-elect spent more than $1 billion less than his opponent showed where the power is, independent journalist Glenn Greenwald said in an interview on “The Charlie Kirk Show.”

“I mean, you’re in independent media. I’ve been in independent media ever since I left the media outlet I founded when it wouldn’t let me publish negative reporting about Joe Biden before the 2020 election. Any of us could see this coming,” he said.

“The data has been so clear. Their ratings have been in collapse and free fall. Every poll shows that Americans trust and like corporate media almost less than like pedophiles and syphilis,” the journalist said.

“And so the trends have been clear for so long. But when your entire self-identity or entire self-esteem depends upon the position and the prestige that you think it brings with inside of a collapsing institution, you’re always going to be the last people to believe that the institution is collapsing. I think the most traumatizing part of this election for them was, again, not just that Trump won, but that so many nonwhite voters, the people who they think they’re the benevolent leaders of, who they think they own, who they think they have the right to have eternal support, migrated in huge numbers away from their candidate to Donald Trump, despite constantly saying Trump was a Nazi, was going to put them in camps,” Greenwald continued.

“Remember, the whole last week of the convention was the media claiming that Trump had a Nazi rally in Madison Square Garden. They were convinced Tony Hinchcliffe’s joke was going to swing the election because Puerto Ricans would rise up with Latinos led by Jennifer Lopez and Big Bunny or Bad Bunny or whoever. And none of that happened,” Greenwald added.

“And so when you think that you speak and are so foreign, so connected to a group of people who turn around and show that they don’t see the world remotely the way you see it, they don’t care what you see, they don’t listen to what you see, this is almost too much for even them to be in denial any longer. And that’s why you see all these, oh my God, how are we going to create our own Joe Rogan?” he said.