Top podcaster Joe Rogan, who frequently blasts the left’s more outrageous behavior and appeared to recently back a top Republican for president in 2024, nevertheless has no interest at all in seeing Donald Trump become president again.

In fact, he won’t do anything to help ’45.’

Rogan opened up about Trump during an interview with podcaster Lex Fridman earlier this week.

”The Trump era is also going to be one of the weirder times when people look back historically about the division in this country, he’s such a polarizing figure that so many people felt like they could abandon their own ethics and morals and principles just to attack him and anybody who supports him because he is an existential threat to democracy itself,” Rogan said.

Asked by the host whether he believes that things are going to get even weirder, Rogan responded, “Yeah, I think it’s gonna get weirder. He’s gonna run again.”

“He’s running against a dead man,” Rogan said of a potential 2024 rematch between President Joe Biden and Trump, “You know, I mean, Biden shakes hands with people that aren’t even there when he gets off stage,” referring to the Biden’s recent reaching out for a handshake with thin air after a speech in which he falsely claimed that he was a university professor for 4 years.

“I think he’s seeing ghosts,” Rogan continued. “Did you see him on Jimmy Kimmel the other day? Well, he was just rambling, I mean he’s, if he was anyone else, if he was a Republican, if that was Donald Trump doing that, every f**king talk show would be screaming for him to be off the air.”

“And by the way, I’m not a Trump supporter in any way shape, or form,” he said, denying that his criticism of Biden is in any way linked to his love for the former president.

I’ve had the opportunity to have him on my show more than once — I’ve said no, every time. I don’t want to help him. I’m not interested in helping him,” Rogan said affirmatively.

Fridman pushed back somewhat, suggesting that Trump would eventually make an appearance on “The Joe Rogan Experience” someday because Rogan would not be able to resist a conversation that would no doubt be interesting.

“I mean, you had, you’ve had a lot of people that I think you might, you may otherwise be skeptical. ‘Would I have a good conversation?’ Which I think is your metric, you don’t care about politics … And I think you had like Kanye on, for example and you had a great conversation with them,” Fridman argued.

“Yeah, but Kanye’s an artist,” Rogan fired back. “Kanye doing well or not doing well, doesn’t change the course of our country.”

Rogan’s remarks about Trump come not long after he praised Florida’s GOP governor, Ron DeSantis, for his leadership.

“All this stuff is happening when we have a ‘dead man’ as president…it’s not fun…Yeah, I think Ron DeSantis would work as a good president,” Rogan said during a recent interview with actress Gina Carano on his own podcast.

“What he’s done for Florida has been admirable. I feel like what he did for Florida, a lot of people gave him a lot of grief, but ultimately he was correct. He was correct when it comes to, like, deaths, he was correct when it comes to protecting vulnerable populations, he was correct in terms of distribution of monoclonal antibodies, and he was furious when the government tried to pull those. They were trying to pull very effective treatments,” he said, giving the Sunshine State governor a lot of credit for his handling of the COVID crisis, which has become somewhat of a gold standard.